What coulda been

Justin Hart of Race42008 wrote a post that is 95% correct. He said:

You don’t try to win straw polls as proof of your national success among a group of voters. You don’t try to win straw polls as proof of momentum. You don’t try to win straw polls as solid proof of your chances at victory.

You DO try to win straw polls to gain free press to accomplish all three of the above. In other words: straw polls are a means to an end and not the end itself.

One of the lessons that I learned early on in my political career, was that the vote was the 2nd most interesting thing that happens at a political event like a convention. There is always horse-trading before, but there is also horse-trading afterwards. People frame, spin, and negotiate what happened. And that is the most interesting thing. I speculated:

When the social conservative leaders meet tomorrow for their post-mortem, they will not be able to push people into supporting Romney.

At this point, I think that people like Tony Perkins want to get behind Mitt Romney. I have no doubt in my mind. He tried and tried and tried to spin the straw poll results to be more positive for Romney. But they don’t know if they can get away with it. Why? Look what is happening to Bob Jones:

The Bob Jones University family has never followed Bob Jones III in lockstep fashion, school officials will tell you.

But Jones’ surprise endorsement of Mitt Romney in the Republican presidential primary has sparked a sharp division of opinion in this stronghold of Christian fundamentalism.

Within an hour of the story hitting the Internet on Greenville-Online.com last Tuesday, e-mails and chat began to come in from BJU people who felt "Dr. Bob" had abandoned his religious principles in the name of political pragmatism by supporting a Mormon.

Is this bigotry? Sure. Is it real? That too. Is it excusable? Nope, but it is still real. (I remember my grandpa, a life-long pastor in small, rural, evangelical churches, telling me, in his 70s, that he was surprised to find out recently that Catholics could be — not "are", but "could be" — Christians) I am still convinced that some of the language that Mike Huckabee used on Saturday was pointed directly at this problem. And he hit it dead on.

Erick, over at Redstate, concurs with my instinct that this is what was going to happen:

Second, I’m told that people in the room tabulating the votes were stunned by Huckabee’s showing. Stunned, for some of them, is an understatement. It seems clear to me that this was an opportunity for the leaders of the social conservative movement to sigh, shrug, and embrace Romney. They intended to. …

Now, you can call me partisan or biased or whatever you want, but all I’m doing here is reporting. The leaders of the social conservative movement who were present, the Arlington Group members you hear so much about, were ready and willing to get on board Romney’s campaign on Saturday morning. Then Huckabee spoke. Then the straw vote was tabulated. Then they realized that were they to do so, it would put them completely out of step with their members.

(Incidentally, you should read the rest of Erick’s post. It is about the shake up to the party that a Mike Huckabee nomination would create. I don’t think I really disagree)

The upshot is that Mitt Romney went into the weekend and got a great success. The headlines were phenomenal for him, although the stories were more mixed. But he wanted more. And the interest group leaders were prepared to deliver. But Huckabee’s stellar performance illustrated the disconnect between the interest group leaders and the members.

And that disconnect left a continued split in the social conservative groups. And a slightly less bumpy road for Rudy Guiliani.

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FRC Straw Poll results

Total (fundraising) Offline (real)
Candidate Votes Candidate Votes
 Romney  1595  Huckabee 488
 Huckabee  1565  Romney 99
 Paul  865  Thompson 77
 Thompson  564  Tancredo 65

They made on and offline versions

First, values:

  1. Abortion
  2. Marriage
  3. Tax cuts
  4. Family tax issues

Sounds like Republicans.

FRC had indicated that they would provide online and offline results. It will be interesting to see the disaggregated numbers. I wonder why they didn’t give those to us.

UPDATE: Turns out that Mike Huckabee blew Romney out in the room. Romney’s astroturf won the online world, but not the real world.

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CPAC West Straw Poll Results

The Conservative Leadership Conference occurred over the weekend. It had called itself "CPAC West." That is perhaps too generous, but the straw poll results strike me as, perhaps, interesting. After all, these are activists. MSNBC’s First Read has the results, which are somewhat surprising:

Paul won with 32 percent, McCain came in second with 17 percent, Hunter was third with 15 percent, and "Romney was in the lower numbers because people came out for his event but they just didn’t vote for him," according to organizer and McCain operative Paul Jackson.

Although many of the Republican presidential teams had surrogates representing them at the conference, Mitt Romney and Duncan Hunter were the only candidates to speak at the conference, and the victor himself was not there.

Ron Paul first? I believe that. John McCain second? That’s news.

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Republican women straw poll results

UPDATE: The results have been updated.

This weekend, the convention of the National Federation of Republican Women was held in California. They held a straw poll. I don’t have complete results yet, but the top-line result is pretty solid. Rudy Giuliani won an outright majority. Giuliani did speak to the convention.

  1. Rudy Giuliani: 50%
  2. Fred Thompson: 21%
  3. Mitt Romney: 14%
  4. Huckabee: 7%
  5. Hunter: 4%
  6. McCain: 2%

Working on more complete results. My understanding is that the convention was actually contested, so there was high turnout.

My source at the NFRW says that John McCain has had historically poor relations with the organization, explaining his results. I don’t have any details though.

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Huckabee’s secret sauce? The FairTax

Here are some facts and a hypothesis:

  • FairTax had 20-30 buses. (how can a 501(c)(4) give to a state party??)
  • Mike Huckabee had no buses.
  • The FairTax had enormous presence and good location.
  • Mike Huckabee had a bad location and little on-site staff.
  • But, Huckabee was the only candidate to endorse the FairTax.

Here’s the hypothesis: Mike Huckabee’s coalition included the FairTax, and they turned out bodies for him.

Here’s some corroborating evidence. A reader in Iowa contacted me with a story. She called up the Huckabee campaign, said she wanted to vote for Huckabee but couldn’t drive to Ames. She asked how to get there. The answer?

Governor Huckabee does not have buses.

So how do I get there? I can bring my husband too.

"Well, the FairTax bus pick up is" such and such. "That’s how I’m getting there."

What great irony. The farthest left candidate on taxes "wins" the straw poll because of his taxes coalition group. You have to admire it.

UPDATE: Iowa Independent has more facts and beat me to the punch.

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More thoughts on Ames, especially Huckabee

Some time, some pushback, some reading, and some conversaton has filled out my thinking on Ames.

Mike Huckabee is clearly the story coming out of Ames for a couple of reasons.

The first reason is that he got a bump. A big one. He will be able to raise money off this, which has been his problem in both Q1 and Q2. He also got headlines. People will take a first or second look at him.

Second, the low turnout suggests that most votes were bought. Mitt Romney spent $2m. Sam Brownback $600k. Huckabee? Not so much. It seems, and no one has raised evidence otherwise, that the Huckabee operation was somewhat spontaneous. On the one hand, this is a tribute to his speaking ability and his message. On the other hand, there is still no evidence that he can organize his way out of a paper bag.

Third, as one reader, who is a friend and a VA operative, put it:

I think that would be a decent indicator of actual support if someone, say Huckebee spent less than Brownback and received more votes.  I would suspect the big winner in that chart [dollar per vote] would be Paul or Tancredo.

I don’t know how much the guys in 4th or 5th matter on this, since it puts them in 7th or 8th over all. But dollar-per-vote or dollar-per-earned-media, clearly Huckabee is far and above the winner. He just needs to figure out how to convert to an organization.

So the story continues to be Huckabee. Romney got what he needed, but I don’t think that he can be fully satisfied. And the shakedown in the conservative field will be interesting to watch. My question is going to be: who drops and and who gets whose staff?

UPDATE: USA Today did some analysis of the per-candidate spending, (H/T to Rich Galen):

Third-place finisher Sam Brownback says he spent about $325,000 to win his 2,192 votes. That’s $148.27 for each vote.
Second-place finisher Mike Huckabee spent about $150,000 and received 2,587 votes. That’s $57.98 per vote.
Winner Mitt Romney has not said how much he spent. The reporting in this Washington Post article suggests at least $2 million and possibly more than twice that much. Assuming $2 million for 4,516 votes, that’s $442.87 per vote. But it could top $1,000.

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Romney wins; conservatives split

Marc Ambinder has the results:

  1. Romney 31.5%
  2. Huckabee 18.1%
  3. Brownback 15%
  4. Tancredo in 13.7%
  5. Ron Paul with 9%

The rest were single digits.

My read is that social conservatives are split, and immigration is really important. The fact that Huckabee + Brownback is greater than Romney will be noticed. At best, you can argue that conservatives are leaning Romney. Thompson will get in and take votes from Romney, whose support is soft.

We are moving in to a weird situation with the conservative votes getting split many different ways. At the same time, Cox, Hunter, Thompson, etc. all need to get out. Ron Paul doesn’t really get a bump.

The interesting dynamic going forward will be whether Brownback and Huckabee go after each other or they go after Romney. Or Fred Thompson…

Giuliani (and to a lesser extent McCain) has got to be thrilled. With no clear opponent coming out of this, although Romney is the strongest, he can go forward, while the conservatives in the race still have to figure out how to cut up the field for themselves.

In other news, the Dems are pointing out that the Romney campaign was soliciting Democratic campaign staffers to vote for Romney.

UPDATE: A reader compares Romney to Bush 1999 and finds that Bush had 50 fewer buses but 4k more votes. One way to read this is is that Romney’s votes were all machine votes, not undecideds coming. The argument against is that the turnout is low, so the only people who showed up were delivered on buses, etc.

UPDATE II: Patrick Ruffini points out how disappointing this was for Romney:

Mitt Romney wins, but by just a shade more than George W. Bush did in 1999 when facing Steve Forbes, who threw millions at the straw poll, and against a far more formidable Ames field overall.

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Ames: Brownback

C-SPAN’s coverage makes it clear that he brought lots and lots of kids to the straw poll.

Sam Brownback starts with tying together families with terrorism. Huckabee did that in his own way.

He really talks about abortion differently than the others.

He talked about "reviving the economy." Republicans don’t talk that way. Then he goes on to talk about growth.

He also talked about a political solution in Iraq much more than the other candidates. I am not sure that legislation makes sense as a mechanism, but he talked about it and sounded lukewarm.

His Mother Teresa story could do quite well with uncommitted evangelicals.

I am struck more than anything else by the size of the crowd that he brought.

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Ames: Huckabee

Mike Huckabee gets a nice intro from Laura Ingraham.

Give America back to the people on Main Street. This is an important undercurrent to the language Sams Club Republican thing. Is that really what Huckabee is?

Michael Vick joke was cute

"I’m not the best funded candidate. I don’t have the money. I can’t even rent you."

"Not about electing a straw man." Another David Brooks reference?

Talks about the Fair Tax. Probably a good strategy, given his tax problem.

Huckabee repeats Newt’s FedEx/UPS line. It is a good metaphor, even if it is not quite right.

He calls for ending the dependence on foreign oil even faster. Good politics in Iowa.

Huckabee gets his strongest applause, from what I can see, over his life comments.

His line about sacrificing ourselves for our next generation is fantastic. Absolutely fantastic.

The story about his daughter Sarah (a member of the DC Young Republicans when I was chairman) and their trip to the Holocaust museum in Jerusalem is also fantastic. Also interesting to hear the connection between the story of Israel, the Holocaust, and a conservative Christian candidate.

I tend to be impressed by him, and there were some evocative moments. But….

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Live blogging the straw poll: Newt and Romney

For some good straw poll blogging, I recommend Marc Ambinder, The Fix, and Cyclone Conservative.

Well, first Newt started by pandering to the anti-immigration forces. Wasn’t he an open borders guy back in the day? Wasn’t he a hero of guest worker programs?

Mitt Romney started by confusing green beans and soybeans. Romney understands that we need change in Washington. He says that change is Washington is going to start "with the results today." Romney starts talking about "strength", a word that David Brooks notes is a bit of a strange fit.

Romney plays up Gitmo. The idea of children cheering for Gitmo turns my stomach.

Romney just said that he wants to cut dividend and capital gains taxes. Actually "zero" for the middle class.

Romney hits on immigration. "Stop illegal immigration." "Amnesty will not work."

Romney also talks about abortion. He says he is firmly pro-life. (whatever)

He talks about marriage. He says he "wants our kids to understand that before they have babies, they get married."

He just called for a button on every computer to cut off porn. DIdn’t Clinton propose that? The V-Chip or something.

Then Romney kicks into his good flag story. And then he ends with his family. I really detest this exhibitionism. But I am amused by the music, "a little less talk and a lot more action."

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