Debate Mitt-flop Watch: Stem Cell

Mitt Romney tried to dodge a question on embryonic stem-cell research, but Chris Matthews asked the tough questions. Again, Mitt flopped. Last night he said:

MODERATOR: And you won’t take any from these fertility clinics to use either?

ROMNEY: I’m happy to allow that to — or I shouldn’t say happy.It’s fine for that to be allowed, to be legal. I won’t use our government funds for that. Instead, I want our governments to be used on Dr. Hurlbut’s method, which is altered nuclear transfer.

However, he wrote in the Boston Globe (see my previous post), when he vetoed a stem-cell bill:

Some stem cells today are obtained from surplus embryos from in-vitro fertilization. I support that research, provided that those embryos are obtained after a rigorous parental consent process … Known as altered nuclear transfer, this method could allow researchers to obtain embryonic stem cells without the moral shortcut of cloning and destroying a human embryo.

A bill that includes methods such as these and bans all human cloning would receive my full support.

In other words, he said he would fund IVF leftover research. Now he won’t.

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Debate Mitt-flop watch: Church and State

I was going to write on this but Deal Hudson beat me to it, and more articulately. Romney’s record:

As governor of Massachusetts, Romney ordered Catholic hospitals to administer emergency contraception to women who claim they had been raped.

Romney’s words last night:

I don’t say anything to Roman Catholic bishops. They can do whatever the heck they want. Roman Catholic bishops are in a private institution, a religion, and they can do whatever they want in a religion.

Whatever they want but follow their conscience….

What changed? Of course, Mitt Romney’s relationship to his religion is, unfairly, being scrutinized. So he changes positions.

Mitt Romney. Everything blows in the wind but his hair.

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Romney’s flip-flops take a village

Mitt Romney opened his mouth and inserted his foot again. However, it turns out that he was replacing Hillary Clinton’s words with his foot, so it may well be a trade up.

You see, back in 1998 he said that Hillary Clinton was "very much right" that "it takes a village:"

Hillary Clinton is very much right, it does take a village, and we are a village and we need to work together in a non-skeptical, no-finger-pointing way…

Now, you see, "it takes a family". Just in case you missed that, he was talking about Rick Santorum.

Perhaps one should say that Romney’s flip-flops take a village. There are so many of them…

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Brownback campaign: Romney misleading voters

I think that this press release just about says it all. No need to comment. Apparently this was triggered by the Romney campaign circulating statements comparing Sam Brownback and Mitt Romney’s record on abortion:

 Mitt Romney’s Campaign Misleads Voters about Senator Brownback’s Position on Abortion

"Mitt Romney’s flip flops are enough to make John Kerry blush."

Alexandria, VA – Documentation surfaced over the weekend that the Romney for President Exploratory Committee is misleading voters.

In an e-mail circulated to right-to-life leaders on February 8, 2007, a key Romney staffer wrote: "Just like Sam Brownback, Mitt was once pro-choice but changed his views upon being elected to office… When Brownback was elected to office, that is when he also had a conversion and voted with the pro-life movement."

Brownback for President National Campaign Committee Member Dr. Jack Willke, who was President of National Right to Life for ten years, responded: "Senator Brownback has always been pro-life, and has never made a statement or cast any vote to the contrary."

This false allegation by the Romney campaign comes in light of recent evidence that Romney has switched positions on abortion at least three times. Below are direct quotes from Mitt Romney on the issue of abortion:

CHRONOLOGY OF MITT ROMNEY’S ABORTION POSITIONS (IN HIS OWN WORDS):

1994: Mitt Romney was pro-choice

"I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time that my mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a US Senate candidate. I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years we should sustain and support it." (Joan Vennochi, "Romney’s Revolving World," The Boston Globe, 3/2/06)


2001: Mitt Romney was not pro-choice

"I do not wish to be labeled pro-choice." (Mitt Romney, Letter to the Editor, The Salt Lake Tribune, 7/12/01)

2002: Mitt Romney was again pro-choice

"I respect and will protect a woman’s right to choose. This choice is a deeply personal one … Women should be free to choose based on their own beliefs, not mine and not the government’s." (Stephanie Ebbert, "Clarity Sought On Romney’s Abortion Stance," The Boston Globe, 7/3/05)

2007: Mitt Romney acknowledges he was "effectively pro-choice," but says he "was always for life."

January 2007: "Over the last multiple years, as you know, I have been effectively pro-choice." (Bruce Smith, "Romney Campaigns in SC with Sen. DeMint," The Associated Press, 1/29/07)

February 2007: "I am firmly pro-life… I was always for life." (Jim Davenport, "Romney Affirms Opposition to Abortion," The Associated Press, 2/9/2007)

"Mitt Romney’s flip flops are enough to make John Kerry blush," Brownback for President Campaign Manager Rob Wasinger said. "It is absurd of Mitt Romney to compare himself to Senator Brownback on the right to life issue."

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Is Romney telling the truth about his stem-cell position?

In the recent kerfuffle over the relationship between Mitt Romney’s universal health care plan and abortion, the Romney campaign issued a response in the "Myth vs. Fact" mode (although, I tend to think of them as "Mitt versus Reality"). At the end Romney said that he had a pro-life record, had defended the culture of life, and mentioned his position on embryonic stem cell research:

Governor Romney Supports Adult Stem Cell Research But Has Opposed Efforts To Advance Embryo Destructive Research In Massachusetts And He Has Not Supported Public Funding For Embryo Destructive Research.

That seems clear. However, today, I was forwarded a recent release from the Republican National Coalition for Life, a Phyllis Schlafly organization. They have a weekly update, and last week it said that Mitt Romney is not pro-life. The whole letter is after the jump, but I wanted to illustrate a couple of points from it, which was titled "Mitt Romney Supports Killing Human Embryos for Research":

Governor Romney, who has established an exploratory committee for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008, says he is now “pro-life” after more than thirty years of staunch support for Roe v. Wade. How can he make that claim when, on the one hand he says he opposes creating human embryos for research purposes (cloning), yet, on the other hand he says he supports using human embryos created for another purpose, that of in vitro fertilization?  It’s a distinction without a difference!   He sanctions the killing of embryos “left over” from IVF treatments “provided that those embryos are obtained after a rigorous parental consent process that includes adoption as an alternative.”

The last is a quote from an op-ed that Romney wrote in the Boston Globe. In this case, Romney vetoed a bill that legalized and funded "therapeutic cloning" and embryonic stem cell research. In his piece Romney declared:

Stem cell research does not require the cloning of human embryos. Some stem cells today are obtained from surplus embryos from in-vitro fertilization. I support that research, provided that those embryos are obtained after a rigorous parental consent process … Known as altered nuclear transfer, this method could allow researchers to obtain embryonic stem cells without the moral shortcut of cloning and destroying a human embryo.

A bill that includes methods such as these and bans all human cloning would receive my full support. I share the excitement and hope that new cures to terrible diseases like multiple sclerosis, juvenile diabetes, and Parkinson’s could soon be within our reach.

In other words, it seems, Romney was opposed to cloning, not embryonic stem cell research, as such.

That doesn’t seem consistent with his statement that, "He Has Not Supported Public Funding For Embryo Destructive Research". Isn’t that just a clear contradiction?
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Did Romney mandate taxpayer-funded abortion?

The latest attack on Mitt Romney’s abortion conversion narrative involves his signature healthcare plan — which he now is distancing himself from. The question, raised by Red State and The Prowler and based on more information from Mass Resistance, is whether the healthcare plan expanded publicly funded abortion, which Romney was on record supporting in 2002.

Romney’s defense from both K-Lo and a number of Redstate commenters seems to be that Romney did not violate his 2002 campaign promise to not change abortion laws.

There are several problems with that.

First, that isn’t Romney’s position anymore. Remember. He converted? No one would take "I won’t change the law" as a credible pro-life position. Now Romney’s position is:

As governor, I’ve had several pieces of legislation reach my desk, which would have expanded abortion rights in Massachusetts. Each of those I vetoed. Every action I’ve taken as the governor that relates to the sanctity of human life, I have stood on the side of life.

This is the standard that Romney should be held to, not his pro-choice position. This is especially important because, again, this took place in 2006, about 18 months after Romney’s supposed conversion.

Second, this does change law. This law requires everyone to have health insurance and creates a subsidy for those who cannot afford it. Therefore, it subsidizes the insurance of poor women. Since Massachusetts law requires abortion to be covered, this creates a new subsidy of abortions by the state government. I think that most Republican pro-life advocates would consider creating new entitlements that subsidize abortions expanding abortion rights.

Third, when Romney talks about the over-regulation of Massachusetts health insurance, he explicitly gives the example that the law requires that men have coverage for in-vitro fertilization. And he worked to repeal that requirement. But he did not work to make sure that abortion wasn’t covered.

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Romney attacks conservative activist for flip-flopping

This can’t be smart. There goes Romney’s good media week. Romney launches an ad hominem attack against Brian Camecker, author of the the Mitt Romney Deception piece. Romney has been bleeding from that and an AP story about it.

In an attempt to undermine Camenker’s credibility, Romney’s campaign says:

Camenker Admits He Used To Be "A Social Liberal." "For much of my life I thought of myself as a social liberal. I voted for John Anderson for president and Michael Dukakis for governor." (Brian Camenker, "How A Good Jewish Boy Joined The ‘Religious Right’," The Jewish Advocate, 12/25/96)

Ummm. So were you Mitt. In 1996, he had a record as a social conservative activist. 10 years later he still does. Romney’s "record as a governor" is full of holes. This sounds like when Romney attacked Kennedy for flip-flopping on abortion.

Why can you change but not other people Mitt?

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Fisking Mitt’s YouTube defense

The YouTube video of Mitt Romney during a 1994 debate with Ted Kennedy shows him to be an eloquent defender of gay rights and abortion rights and dismissive of Ronald Reagan. Romney released a YouTube video of his own (per David All’s best practices) claiming that he had been wrong on some issues in the past. 

Trying to laugh off allegations that he is flip-flopping, Romney continues to misrepresent his record.

Let’s look at the most important part of his statement (full transcript below) which was designed, as AP’s Glenn Johnson pointed out, to tell "social conservatives key to his presidential campaign that he is one of them":

If you want to know where I stand, by the way, you don’t have to just listen to my words. You can go and look at my record as governor. Frankly, in the bluest of states, facing the most liberal media in the country, I’ve led the fight to preserve traditional marriage. I’ve taken every legal step I could conceive of, to prevent same-sex marriage. I’ve also taken action to protect the sanctity of life. I’ve vetoed bills that authorized embryo farming, therapeutic cloning, Plan B, emergency contraception, and, of course, a redefinition of when life was going to begin as well.

Here’s what social conservatives need to know about Romney’s assertions.

Romney said, "I’ve taken every legal step I could conceive of, to prevent same-sex marriage." Deal Hudson, a Catholic scholar who is close to President Bush, recently showed that this is not true . Hudson said that Romney had an effective, legal way to take jurisdiction over marriage from the courts. Instead, he ignored pressure from conservative groups, taking the high-publicity route, turning the issue into the basis of his Presidential campaign. For more posts on Romney flip-flops on gay rights, go here.

Romney said, "I’ve also taken action to protect the sanctity of life." Leon Wolf at Redstate has pointed out that Romney actually overturned his own Health Secretary to end the conscience exemption in Catholic hospitals in Massachusetts. Maybe he’s taken some "action to protect the sanctity of life", but it certainly hasn’t been consistent even in the last two years.

Romney said, "I’ve vetoed … Plan B, emergency contraception, …". This time Romney is telling the truth. However, it’s a flip-flop. He made a campaign promise to expand these. Will Romney win social conservative votes by breaking his promises?

Romney tries to dismiss this all as "13 year old history." However even his "record as Governor" over the last 2-4 years does not live up to his words today.

While Mitt thinks 13 years is too long to be responsible for his own words, in 1994 he had no problem criticizing Ted Kennedy for something he said 21 years earlier. In 1994, Mitt argued that pro-choice voters couldn’t trust Ted Kennedy because Kennedy had flip-flopped on abortion 21 years earlier:

"The reason they don’t trust Ted Kennedy is that he flip-flopped on abortion . . . Mitt has always been consistent in his pro-choice position.'’ Romney consultant Charles Manning during the Kennedy race.

Ted Kennedy (!!) was unreliable on abortion. Therefore, according to Romney’s campaign, they should vote for Romney because he’d been consistently pro-choice.

Mitt misrepresents his actions and doesn’t take responsibility for his words.

If 21 years wasn’t good enough for you to believe Ted Kennedy was really pro-choice, why is 2 years — at best — enough for conservatives to believe that Romney is really conservative?

Update: John Hawkins doesn’t think this is a successful rebuttal. And Romney’s response, however well done (not that in my opinion) is ephemeral compared to being in print. And as Glenn Reynolds points out, this got a lot of press.
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EFM tries to cover up another Romney flip-flop-flip-flop

Evangelical for Mitt’s David French (whose wife and co-blogger lied to the press about funding people for the Southern Republican Leadership Conference) has written another apologetic on Mitt Romney’s record. In this case, a concerned Evangelical writes in and says that he read Mass Resistance’s "Romney Deception" piece and cannot abide by Romney’s record. So Mr. French runs to the rescue to save his hero. But he lands in a ditch of flips and flops. Let’s follow the story.

The Honorable Steve Baldwin, former Assemblyman in California’s 77th Assembly district (San Diego) wrote in and said:

Well, the problem many conservatives have with Romney is that it’s difficult to detect a consistent track record demonstrating that he’s a social conservative. He first came on my radar screen a few years ago when I found out that his Education Department sent gay activists to California to appear in hearings before a committee of the California Legislature, a body I used to serve in. … Most of these programs were carried out under the auspices of the "Governor’s Commission on Gay and Lesbian Affairs" an agency Romney inherited and then doubled in size.

Conservatives have been taken for a ride once too many times my friends. But not this time.

To which Mr. French responded:

But we don’t live in a perfect world. Governor Romney inherited the commission — it had existed for 10 years before he became governor — and there is no indication that he knew about the full extent of its activities until much later in his administration. Further, while he did provide $250,000 for the Commission in his 2006 budget proposal (a microscopic amount within the context of the state budget), this was not an increase from the previous year. In 2005, the commission received $250,000, and the Governor had vetoed legislative efforts to increase that amount. To put that amount in context, prior funding (in previous administrations) had reached as high as $1.6 million.

Finally — and this is important — the Governor actually abolished the commission last summer:

What’s the real story? The short version was characterized by a Boston Globe columnist:

He doubled the budget line item for the Governor’s Commission on Gay and Lesbian Youth, until he tried to disband it last May — more political theater for the Republican right.

But it is actually a little juicier than that. Read the whole thing. Romney did indeed abolish the Commission on July 20th, 2006, as described by the Globe here. However, there is more to the story than our friends at EFM would admit to:

A spokesman for Romney said he issued the executive order because there was no need for two commissions both focused on the needs of gay and lesbian youth.

A second Commission was created by the legislature because the Governor had tried to abolish the Commission before. But Romney got rolled. You see, according to the story, Romney had considered abolishing the Commission earlier in the year, but backtracked. Again from the Globe, but this time, May 12th:

The commission chairwoman, Kathleen M. Henry, said she was called yesterday by Beth Myers, the governor’s chief of staff, who told her that the governor planned to issue an executive order ‘’revoking our existence" and creating another youth commission whose purview would be all of the state’s youth, not just gays and lesbians. The commission would have all new members, she said.

But a few hours later, Myers called again, Henry said, and said the governor had switched course.

‘’He changed his mind," said Henry, who heads a 14-member panel. ‘’We inundated them with outrage. It just plumed everywhere."

Now, this is the same Kathleen Henry who said the year before that Romney had increased spending for the organization, again, according to the Globe in 2005:

Kathleen Henry, chairwoman of the Governor’s Commission on Gay and Lesbian Youth, defended Romney. Henry said the governor’s fiscal 2006 budget plan included $250,000 for the commission, twice as much as he proposed spending in 2005.

So Romney doubled the budget (flip), then tried to abolish it (flop), backtracked (flip), and abolished only after he lost because the legislature made something more powerful (flop).

Am I detecting a pattern? Brian Camenker did:

‘’This shows that Romney probably doesn’t have what it takes to run the country if he can’t even make a decision about this."

Oh. And he lost the fight too.

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Romney attacked as a flip-flop-flip-flop-flipper on abortion

Jerry Zandstra, a member of Sam Brownback’s exploratory committee, sent the following letter to a (probably very) large number of Michigan conservative activists.  Some excerpts and the whole letter:

Excerpts:

Mitt Romney, current governor of Massachusetts and likely presidential candidate has had a tough couple of weeks.  It isn’t what others have said about him.  Rather, his own words have caught up with him.  What his words seem to indicate is someone whose positions on social issues important to conservatives either are wrong or have changed direction so many times as to render them meaningless.

And:

      When Gov. Romney was considering a run to be the governor of Utah, he wavered, claiming that he was now pro-life.  His defenders claimed that what he said in Massachusetts was “a carefully crafted position intended to sound more firm than it was” because “he was running against Ted Kennedy in a state that was 80 percent pro-choice and to have any chance at all, he was waffling.”     

      Only a few years later, Romney was back in Massachusetts, running for his current position as their governor.  When prodded by his pro-choice opponent in a debate, Gov. Romney said, “Let me make this very clear.  I will preserve and protect a woman’s right to choose.”  In that same election, he endorsed embryonic stem cell research,  refused to take a position on human cloning, and endorsed Medicaid funding for abortions.  

As promised, the whole letter, after the jump
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