Comments on: Ideas for a new movement http://sorendayton.com/2007/08/09/ideas-for-a-new-movement/ Merely an aggregation of a dispersed life online Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:08:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: PEG http://sorendayton.com/2007/08/09/ideas-for-a-new-movement/comment-page-1/#comment-1176 PEG Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:12:37 +0000 http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/08/09/ideas-for-a-new-movement/#comment-1176 I agree with all of these, except maybe the foreign policy stuff. I think more emphasis, including an entire plank of the platform, should be placed on supporting families. This is important not just from a moral but from an economic standpoint, as social research shows families are an engine of growth and upward mobility. Plus electorally, this would be a good way to reconnect with the blue collars the GOP needs to be a majority, as they are the ones who are most badly struck by illegitimacy and family breakdown. The law needs to build strong incentives for people to get married and to stay married, and this needs to be a pillar of a 21st century GOP agenda. I agree with all of these, except maybe the foreign policy stuff.

I think more emphasis, including an entire plank of the platform, should be placed on supporting families. This is important not just from a moral but from an economic standpoint, as social research shows families are an engine of growth and upward mobility. Plus electorally, this would be a good way to reconnect with the blue collars the GOP needs to be a majority, as they are the ones who are most badly struck by illegitimacy and family breakdown.

The law needs to build strong incentives for people to get married and to stay married, and this needs to be a pillar of a 21st century GOP agenda.

]]> By: sampo http://sorendayton.com/2007/08/09/ideas-for-a-new-movement/comment-page-1/#comment-1175 sampo Fri, 10 Aug 2007 01:40:28 +0000 http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/08/09/ideas-for-a-new-movement/#comment-1175 Soren, Ok, going forward, I'll abide by your rules. But.. I take these allegations agaisnt the United States very seriously. They hit closer to home than a personal attack. When a poll states that some 5% of rurual Pakistanis believe that Osama bin Laden was behind 9-11 I take that VERY personally. The issue IMO is not that the U.S. is an unjust and vindicitive country bent on conquest, torture, and slaughtering of civilians. The issues is that people are so blinded that they see what they want to see. These people, in my honest opinion, hate the country. Soren,
Ok, going forward, I’ll abide by your rules.

But.. I take these allegations agaisnt the United States very seriously. They hit closer to home than a personal attack. When a poll states that some 5% of rurual Pakistanis believe that Osama bin Laden was behind 9-11 I take that VERY personally.

The issue IMO is not that the U.S. is an unjust and vindicitive country bent on conquest, torture, and slaughtering of civilians. The issues is that people are so blinded that they see what they want to see. These people, in my honest opinion, hate the country.

]]> By: eye http://sorendayton.com/2007/08/09/ideas-for-a-new-movement/comment-page-1/#comment-1174 eye Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:57:30 +0000 http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/08/09/ideas-for-a-new-movement/#comment-1174 Sampo, Can we not attack people like that? Thanks, Soren Sampo,

Can we not attack people like that?

Thanks,
Soren

]]> By: eye http://sorendayton.com/2007/08/09/ideas-for-a-new-movement/comment-page-1/#comment-1173 eye Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:33:02 +0000 http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/08/09/ideas-for-a-new-movement/#comment-1173 Neil, First, the war on terror is not going away, one way or the other. Human rights are one of the few options that we have. Once Gitmo is shut down, we will really have to work on this issue. So, ultimately, we will need to come back with that and other things. But, currently we have problems with international opinion. Big big problems. Soren Neil,

First, the war on terror is not going away, one way or the other.

Human rights are one of the few options that we have. Once Gitmo is shut down, we will really have to work on this issue.

So, ultimately, we will need to come back with that and other things. But, currently we have problems with international opinion. Big big problems.

Soren

]]> By: sampo http://sorendayton.com/2007/08/09/ideas-for-a-new-movement/comment-page-1/#comment-1172 sampo Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:04:52 +0000 http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/08/09/ideas-for-a-new-movement/#comment-1172 Neil, If you didn't hate the United States so much, unintended consequences could grant you some presepctive. Neil,
If you didn’t hate the United States so much, unintended consequences could grant you some presepctive.

]]> By: neil http://sorendayton.com/2007/08/09/ideas-for-a-new-movement/comment-page-1/#comment-1171 neil Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:39:22 +0000 http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/08/09/ideas-for-a-new-movement/#comment-1171 <i>Win the War on Terror and advance human rights around the world</i> It's pretty obvious to me that the "War on Terror" brand is now tainted with wars of conquest, torture and indiscriminate slaughter of civilians, enough so that pairing it with "human rights" is an idea whose horizon is long past. Maybe for domestic political consumption, but you're not one of those Republicans who thinks that's the only thing that matters, are you? Win the War on Terror and advance human rights around the world

It’s pretty obvious to me that the “War on Terror” brand is now tainted with wars of conquest, torture and indiscriminate slaughter of civilians, enough so that pairing it with “human rights” is an idea whose horizon is long past. Maybe for domestic political consumption, but you’re not one of those Republicans who thinks that’s the only thing that matters, are you?

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