Comments on: California splitting electoral votes too? http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/08/01/california-splitting-electoral-votes-too/ Covering the 2008 election Wed, 09 Jul 2008 01:21:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.5 by: eye http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/08/01/california-splitting-electoral-votes-too/#comment-35194 Fri, 03 Aug 2007 00:18:13 +0000 http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/08/01/california-splitting-electoral-votes-too/#comment-35194 I agree that a June ballot is a real possibility. That would be extremely interesting. I don't know if the Dems could turn people out to stop Giuliani. I know we could to stop Hillary. But I am still skeptical. I agree that a June ballot is a real possibility. That would be extremely interesting.

I don’t know if the Dems could turn people out to stop Giuliani.

I know we could to stop Hillary. But I am still skeptical.

]]> by: rhfreijr http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/08/01/california-splitting-electoral-votes-too/#comment-35192 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:50:55 +0000 http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/08/01/california-splitting-electoral-votes-too/#comment-35192 Eye and Sampo, as a third-generation Californian I'm telling you that you are both whistling past the graveyard. California is liberal only in LA county and the Bay counties. The rest of the state is red as has been that way since Nixon ran for the Senate, if not before. Just look at the electoral maps. Which is why the national Democrats are very afraid of this. It will completely overturn their election strategy. This is the type of ballot initative that will have more than enought support to qualify for the ballot. It is a "made for the ballot" initative. If it qualifies in all likelyhood be during the June '08 primary when turnout will be low as the "main show" will be in February. Which favors its passage. Cleverly marketed it will pass. All thge supporters need to do is appeal to one man- one vote principle, to the principle of fairness. Remind Democrats that Reagan and Bush Sr. got all of CA's electoral votes whereas with this system they wouldn't have. Remind voters in San Fransico and Los Angeles that one more vote for the opposition candidate means that their electoral votes go to the candidate they didn't support. Remind all voters that this type of electoral vote system for CA would make the candidates come to the state and campaign actively here. No longer would the state be an after thought. It would make Presidental candidate fight for every single distict. Make them address the issues that Californians care about. It will increase the importance of the state in the selection of the President. Spun that way it passes comfortably. Personally, I hope all the states adopt the "Nebraska" system. Eye and Sampo, as a third-generation Californian I’m telling you that you are both whistling past the graveyard. California is liberal only in LA county and the Bay counties. The rest of the state is red as has been that way since Nixon ran for the Senate, if not before. Just look at the electoral maps. Which is why the national Democrats are very afraid of this. It will completely overturn their election strategy.

This is the type of ballot initative that will have more than enought support to qualify for the ballot. It is a “made for the ballot” initative. If it qualifies in all likelyhood be during the June ‘08 primary when turnout will be low as the “main show” will be in February. Which favors its passage. Cleverly marketed it will pass. All thge supporters need to do is appeal to one man- one vote principle, to the principle of fairness. Remind Democrats that Reagan and Bush Sr. got all of CA’s electoral votes whereas with this system they wouldn’t have. Remind voters in San Fransico and Los Angeles that one more vote for the opposition candidate means that their electoral votes go to the candidate they didn’t support. Remind all voters that this type of electoral vote system for CA would make the candidates come to the state and campaign actively here. No longer would the state be an after thought. It would make Presidental candidate fight for every single distict. Make them address the issues that Californians care about. It will increase the importance of the state in the selection of the President. Spun that way it passes comfortably. Personally, I hope all the states adopt the “Nebraska” system.

]]> by: eye http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/08/01/california-splitting-electoral-votes-too/#comment-35172 Wed, 01 Aug 2007 23:42:34 +0000 http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/08/01/california-splitting-electoral-votes-too/#comment-35172 Well, it depends on what ballot it would appear on. Turnout is turnout is turnout. But it would almost certainly fail. Well, it depends on what ballot it would appear on. Turnout is turnout is turnout. But it would almost certainly fail.

]]> by: sampo http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/08/01/california-splitting-electoral-votes-too/#comment-35171 Wed, 01 Aug 2007 21:26:37 +0000 http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/08/01/california-splitting-electoral-votes-too/#comment-35171 if this proposal goes on a ballot in a liberal California, this bill dies. How could it not? if this proposal goes on a ballot in a liberal California, this bill dies. How could it not?

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